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There will be Bacon rolls and Sausage baguettes in the morning from 7:30am onwards,

FOC and First come first served, but there should be plenty for everyone.

Tea and coffee in the club house, and maybe scones in the afternoon :-)

I will have the air fryer there, so if you want to heat anything up you can.

Regards

Nigel

Bless you Nigel, you're a star, thank you so much.

Surely, this must be the incentive to fill that last place ?

Polite reminder to all those who have kindly offered to Judge on Sunday, please remember to bring a set of headphones/ear pods for the Notaumatics.

PS. Good news the previous high volume level has been turned down to a much more acceptable level.

On behalf of Graham here are the flight orders for this Sundays competition.

Thanks Phil.

To all entrants for Sunday, please see separate post in "Members Only" section for details of how to gain access to the Competition site, there is an electric gate which you will require a number for.

Also, there will be complimentary Teas and Coffees all day, please bring your own mugs though.

See you on Sunday.

And here for your delight are all of the round scores for all schedules.

Great day, thank you everyone involved.

Phil

An enjoyable day in the chair for me - if a little on the cold side.

Overall I saw lots of good flying in conditions that were nowhere easy as they looked - the sky was bright with low sun early in the day and the wind was much stronger than it felt on the ground.

The main things I saw that were common across all the schedules were (a) variations in flying speed that resulted in insufficient control surface authority to maintain the manoeuvre shape and ( b) insufficient compensation for the headwind component, mainly in vertical lines on end manoeuvres.

Many pilots flew part of their schedules too close (probably due to the crosswind component) and were out of the box on the downwind end (the right side of the box today).

In stall turns the plane often didn't stop the vertical upward movement before the pivot. This is hard, so don't feel too bad!

Some specifics where there was more than one pilot in a class:

Intermediate

Triangles often too wide, with the first leg too shallow.
No line or a very short line before the upward roll in the stall turn
The Immelmann needs to be bigger to give height for the square loop.
Power off too soon on the split S, causing the plane to fall into the half loop with too tight a radius (and a point off for the speed variation)
Cuban 8 nearly always was started late, was too small, then drifted off downwind
Humpty bump was out of the box because of the Cuban 8 placement
Figure 6 had too short a line after the half roll and the 3/4 loop was too tight
Knife edge went off line
Spin entries were not well defined.

P-25 to follow in a separate post.

Outside my comfort zone (flying in October- it's just cold!) but wanted to enter as we were flying a new schedule-P25.

Really enjoyed the day. Good to watch others flying the P25.  Very useful. 

Thanks to Eddie and Kevin for judging all day; Graham for organising; the club and its members (inc those there competing) for use of the fantastic site including heated clubhouse; Nigel for the sausage baps and teas coffees and scones; Phil for the notaumatics; the Gooch Gooch Lewis team for photos and eventual YouTube post; Yaz and Gary for calling. Anyone I've missed. If so I'm sorry. 

Until 2024.

P-25 feedback - obviously there were many more of these flown than the other schedules, so there is more detail because there were many common errors.

Triangle - often the entry leg was shallow with the 2/4 point roll too soon.
Half Square loop full roll - generally good - the most common error was the roll being too early (high in the line) and a wider bottom radius than top. The previous manoeuvre ends on centre and the subsequent manoeuvre starts on centre so there is no need to take this to end of the box.
Square loop on corner - most were good, just a few misplacements of the half rolls in the lines.
Figure 9 - very few pilots wind corrected the vertical line, so many went out of the box during the 3/4 loop.
Roll combo - quite a lot of diving through the manoeuvre and some differences in point lengths. Also the roll reversal in the centre should be immediate.
Stall turn - lots of forced wing overs - see my generic comment on stall turns.
Double Immelmann - the full roll was often not axial and changed roll rate. Lots of straight lines after the roll - the push should be immediate. The knife edge was often not exactly on knife edge (easily spotted at height) and went off line (rudder- elevator mix not quite right?). Some sharp pushes into the second half loop - remember you are flying into wind so this needs a gentle push not a sharp one. The manoeuvre was often displaced to the right, so the timing and rate of the first roll is important.
Humpty bump - lots of these went out of the box, which shouldn't happen because the double Immelmann finishes before centre. Again, the next manoeuvre doesn't start until centre so you have the entire half box to perform this end manoeuvre. Pull up early and wind correct the vertical lines.
Loop with integrated half rolls - lots of variations in roll rate (some big variations) and a tightening radius after the top of the loop.
Half square loop on corner - often too shallow on the second leg, leading it to finish too near the centre.
Half clover - this needs to be big to demonstrate lines before and after the half rolls. This wasn't often wind corrected enough in the verticals, followed by a sharp push at the exit to leave room for the next manoeuvre.
Reverse Et - generally well flown but sometimes not wind corrected on the upline.
Spin - lots of sliding entries.
Top hat - not enough used the cross box option after drifting in during the spin.
Figure Z - start earlier and don't make it too high. Those that flew it large gave themselves problems with the Comet that follows.
Comet - many went out of the box after a large Z.
Figure S - lots of late starts to the 1/4 rolls and lots of problems with the plane pitching and rolling during the knife edge portion. The top half loop was often smaller than the bottom, or if it was the same size, the manoeuvre was too large.

After writing all this and looking at the scoresheets (I was judge 1) I may not be getting too many Christmas cards this year, but I did think that everyone did well for the first outing of this schedule. We'll all get to grips with the geometry and relative sizes of the manoeuvres over the close season and I think it looks like a good challenging schedule.

F-25 anyone?

Quote from: Kevin Caton on 15, October 2023, 08:45:54 PMAn enjoyable day in the chair for me - if a little on the cold side.

Overall I saw lots of good flying in conditions that were nowhere easy as they looked - the sky was bright with low sun early in the day and the wind was much stronger than it felt on the ground.

The main things I saw that were common across all the schedules were (a) variations in flying speed that resulted in insufficient control surface authority to maintain the manoeuvre shape and ( b) insufficient compensation for the headwind component, mainly in vertical lines on end manoeuvres.

Many pilots flew part of their schedules too close (probably due to the crosswind component) and were out of the box on the downwind end (the right side of the box today).

In stall turns the plane often didn't stop the vertical upward movement before the pivot. This is hard, so don't feel too bad!

Some specifics where there was more than one pilot in a class:

Intermediate

Triangles often too wide, with the first leg too shallow.
No line or a very short line before the upward roll in the stall turn
The Immelmann needs to be bigger to give height for the square loop.
Power off too soon on the split S, causing the plane to fall into the half loop with too tight a radius (and a point off for the speed variation)
Cuban 8 nearly always was started late, was too small, then drifted off downwind
Humpty bump was out of the box because of the Cuban 8 placement
Figure 6 had too short a line after the half roll and the 3/4 loop was too tight
Knife edge went off line
Spin entries were not well defined.

P-25 to follow in a separate post.

Many Thanks for the feedback.

Nigel

Photos from Sunday are now on the gallery

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